Round 11 Discussion

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  1. Zed Shaw

    Remember also that this is moved up to Tuesday so everyone has a full 7 days to work on it.

  2. metagoto

    It’s a major or minor blues ?

    Zed Shaw

    Either. See what works. You could have one character with major blues and one with minor.

  3. Hank Marquardt

    Man you gunna get yerself edumacated on engineering and mixing …. you be shaving a whole herd o yak putting that final song together …

    You want wav files? … that’ll make it easier, but the files are going to be damn big …

    Just to clarify, you want the duel parts to be in 4 bar chunks but 12 bars total, using G C D progression?

    Zed Shaw

    Ha, yeah that’s the plan, but actually Reaper is damn fast at this kind of stuff. If you guys keep it fairly good on the timing I’ll be able to work it out quickly.

    Just send in mp3s but try to keep the quality high. I use lame -h -V3 for mine and it works.

    For the Duel parts, it’s 4 choruses of the blues, so 4 * 12 bars total. So it could be like Caleb:Wizard:Caleb:Wizard with 12 bars each for their duel part. And actually 120 is too slow so I’m bumping it to 140 otherwise it’ll be kinda boring and take too per chorus.

    Zed Shaw

    Alright updated with some clarifications. It’ll refresh in the cache shortly.

    Hank Marquardt

    Oh laying the tracks together, trimming them, sliding them around a little to fit time, that’s not so bad … wait till you have levels on the submissions that vary from -8db to +2db … and have to make them all sound good in the final mix … that’s the big old yak that needs shaving … Someone will have noise in their track, making the crossfades good for the bends/holds/slides/etc at the transitions between players … good times :)

    OK, so we got 48 bars of solo broken up into 12s … got it

  4. Hank Marquardt

    As long as we stay at 140, why do you care about the drum track if you’re getting the lead lines separately? Seems like a single consistent beat through the whole song is going to be really boring for the individual submissions.

    For example, I could see breaking down the 48 bars of solo to 2 groups of 24, the first one played with a half time groove and building to the faster stuff on the second group … also are we staying straight up 4/4 time for the blues stuff or are was going for triplet feel or swung? Seems we have to stay 4/4, though then while maintaining I-IV-V 12 Bar pattern, we probably really end up with just plain old root-5 chords to rock over.

    Zed Shaw

    Not sure what you mean about the drum track, but I’m probably going to do a different one that will fit with what the final song needs. I’ll be basically remixing what you send in. You of course can craft a final song with whatever drums you do in order to bring out your idea for the duels.

    Definitely keep it in standard 4/4 times since that’s easier to coordinate. And if you can think of a different way to carve the 4 choruses of 12 bars then try it out in the audition and I’ll see how I think it’ll mesh.

    I could see everyone carving the 4 choruses up differently and then we’d have a lot of variety. For example you could do 8 bars each character, 24 like you say, anything that fits into 4 blues choruses.

  5. Hank Marquardt

    So I did my submission, I have the solo takes stripped out to two mp3s with 2 solo sections each (separated by 12 bars of dead air). Doesn’t seem like those should be ‘submissions’, but should be somewhere else … Audition forum maybe?

  6. Chad Woolley

    So, I’m wondering how this is gonna fit together. I’m guessing it’ll just be the three of us again this round (we need a much lower bar for entry for a few rounds, I think - I’ve got some ideas, but I’ll post them later).

    Anyway, I’m wondering how the swing vs. non-swing will work. I think your backing track is great, but should I use it for my submission? Is that fair?

    I’m thinking of doing all minor stuff since Hank did major. That would give a good contrast, and since Hank is insanely faster than me on the last riff, so the “good” (major) guy can win over the Evil Wizard (minor).

    What are you planning on throwing in Zed? Are you going to do your own backing track or use Hank’s?

    In any case, can you throw up just the drum track from your backing track, so I can record my own backing but with the same beats?

    Oh, and I do have a bass, and I know how to play it. I’ll try to do a bass track…

    Hank Marquardt

    OK, I threw the drum track up under audition.

    Hank Marquardt

    I don’t think you have to worry too much about swing v. non-swing … I redid the rhythm track playing straight with not swing and everything sounded fine, should be one wicked mashup when we’re done here.

    I do wonder about participation … just don’t seem to get any traction. Maybe there aren’t enough people like us out there. We’ve done some easy rounds … though maybe we need to do another one; look forward to your ideas.

    Maybe we need more education/clinic material … though that’s hard to say as folks aren’t posting on the forum either. Maybe everyone is just so awesome they’re recording their albums for iTunes instead …